God's Own Country (2017)
|kostis108||Date: Tuesday, 2018-01-30, 5:12 PM | Message # 16|
|Αξίζει την θέαση. Την είδα και ήταν πολύ καλή! Ισάξια του Brokeback Mountain. |
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|gamatomovies1978||Date: Sunday, 2018-02-04, 12:35 PM | Message # 17|
|κατεβασα την ταινια σε blueray, τοσο πολυ μ αρεσε. |
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|Jishcand||Date: Monday, 2018-02-05, 3:45 AM | Message # 18|
|Francis Lee's feature film debut, "God's Own Country" is a beguiling visual poem to gay emotional and sexual awakening.|
Set on the sheep farming hills of Yorkshire, the film revolves around
young, repressed Johnny Saxby (Josh O'Connor in a career-making
performance), who tends to the family farm by day and binge drinks and
fucks random dudes at night (as well as whenever and wherever he can).
When a brooding Romanian, Gheorghe (Alec Secareanu), is hired to help out on
the farm, cultures clash but animal attraction turns into a journey of
discovery for Johnny.
Writer-director Lee, who began his career as an actor, is uncompromising in his depiction of the complex,
combustible, yet tender love story. And his two lead actors are simply
fearless in their immersion. And you won't find a no-nudity clause in
these actor's contracts.
"God's Own Country," now playing in New York and Los Angeles, has been compared to Ang Lee's "Brokeback
Mountain," probably because both films have rural settings and feature
two very different gay male characters falling in love with each other.
EDGE sat down with Lee, O'Connor and Secareanu and no topic was taboo.
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EDGE: Doing tons of press for this film, are there one question you guys are tired of being asked and/or one you were surprised by?
Alec Secareanu: I think the most surprising question I am asked is, 'Am I really a Romanian?' So the answer is yes, I am really Romanian.
Francis Lee: The question people ask the most...
Josh O'Connor: Is it autobiographical...?
Francis Lee: Yeah. Which it isn't. It's just personal. And the strangest question I
had was in New Zealand, from an audience member who asked me who was
top and who was bottom. (Laughter)
Josh O'Connor: I don't think I mind any question... People respond to every film in
different ways, and I think it's our job to answer those questions.
EDGE: Francis, you started out as an actor. When and how did you decide to journey into writing and directing?
Francis Lee: I always wanted to write and direct. But I was never confident enough
to write anything. And I also was a very obsessive stills photographer,
so I felt like I viewed the world through a lens... and I wasn't really a
participant in life, more an observer. So I always played out stories
in my head and always saw them visually... Then I got to a certain age
and thought, fuck it, you're going to have to do it or shut up. So I
gave up acting about six or seven years ago and took a job in a scrap
yard and started to write and made two short films that I self-financed.
Then I wrote this, and then I made another short film, and then I made
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EDGE: Was 'God's Own Country' a story that just came to you?
Francis Lee: The starting point was I wanted to investigate the landscape where I
grew up and where my dad is a farmer, and where I now live. And the idea
that on the one hand it was incredibly freeing and creative and open
and expansive and on the other hand it was incredibly difficult,
problematic, brutal, cold, wet, inaccessible.
Then, at the time, I was figuring out the whole falling in love thing and how difficult that
can be. And so those two things collided. I love characters that are
survivors, loners, battling everything including themselves. And that's
where Johnny came from. So I thought about it for six months and then I
EDGE: Can you speak to casting these two gentlemen?
Francis Lee: (referring to Josh) ...He did a self-tape... and I got these scenes
and, first of all, I was convinced he was from the North of England
because his accent was so good. And then he delivered this incredibly
natural, emotionally repressed reading of these scenes. I was mesmerized
because he totally internalized what this character meant. And I was
very attracted to his ears. And I could see he had massive hands, like
somebody who worked the land... He was able to come and meet me in
London, and I was super shocked because he was the total antithesis of
the character. Josh is just the sweetest, loveliest, most open, funny,
generous, smiley boy you'd ever wish to meet. And he's from quite a posh
town in the south of England. And very quickly, when I started to work
with him in the room and I saw he was a very transformative actor, that
he's a rare actor that can literally shape shift. And that really turned
(Referring to Alec) And this one. I was sent a lot of self-tapes from Romania and Alec totally pinged out of the pile because
this character on the page could be very two-dimensional. Gheorghe is
very nuanced, very subtle, in this inner, maternal care that he has --
but he's not a pushover. And Alec just totally delivered that... Alec is
a very focused, intelligent actor who totally understood who this
person was, and also understood the subtly of it.
I always knew this film would live or die by the relationship, so I'd cast Josh; and
Alec was my favorite actor from Romania, but just to be on the safe side
we did chemistry tests, and fantastically Josh and Alec worked
incredibly well together straightaway and pushed each other...
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EDGE: Josh, Francis mentioned you being transformative, could you speak to that how you inhabited Johnny?
Josh O'Connor: ...A lot of that character is on the page. Francis, as a writer,
translates what we hopefully are going to see onto paper really well and
clearly and concisely.
Then there was the process we went through, which was about three months of prep. Francis and I talking
every day on the phone. Alec went through the same thing. We'd go from
the beginning of his life, when he was born, what his relationship with
his mother was like... His relationship to the land, what his ambitions
were... When was his first sexual experience? Is there a moment we can
pinpoint where he became emotionally isolated, or is that just inherent
in his family? Literally every single detail you can think of we'd
written down and thought through and embodied.
So that when I came up to Yorkshire and we started working on the farm for two weeks, we
knew those characters inside and out. So then it was living the
EDGE: Alec, what drew you to want to play Gheorghe?
Alec Secareanu: When I first read the script I really loved the story and the
character, and I loved the fact that he's a Romanian because there's not
a lot of stories about Romanians. And it was a different story than
I've read before.
Of course I was bit afraid at the beginning because of the explicitness of scenes. Not only the sex scenes, but the
farming scenes. And as soon as met Francis in Bucharest I realized he
really knows what he wants with the film and the story, and he totally
gained my trust in that meeting.
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EDGE: Francis, let's rip the nudity/intimate situations Band-Aid right off since this is America. There are currently some
wonderful gay-themed films that are explicit, and one or two that avoid
it. Obviously, you made the film you wanted to make. Did anyone try and
dissuade you, and did you have any doubts about going that route?
Francis Lee: (Long pause) I'm investigating a character who isn't middle class. He
isn't privileged. He's not educated. He comes from a family that doesn't
sit around and talk about how they feel... There was no way to show an
emotional arc within him through any kind of dialogue. So the way in
which I chose to show where he starts, goes and ends is through what he
does physically. Now that is the farming, but also in those intimate
scenes. So, straightaway, the first interaction we see him have in the
back of that cattle trailer with the young auctioneer, I totally
understand where he's at because he fucks. He doesn't give. There's no
intimacy. It feels like he's just doing it to get it out of his
system... So when we see the two characters together there's intimacy,
where they kiss, where he discovers touch, I can see the progression,
and nobody's said a word. I love that about visual storytelling. So it
felt very important for the truth, for the authenticity of the
character, the place and the world.
In terms of the nudity, there's only one scene really with nudity, and that was very important
because it's the first and only time that Johnny emotionally is raw and
he speaks about his mum and about what happened to her. He's totally
open with Gheorghe and totally vulnerable. And to mirror that, I wanted
to see that he was bare physically... There is no emotional guard. There
is no clothing. Nothing. So that felt incredibly truthful and told the
viewer where this character was at.
I don't think that the intimate scenes, the nudity is particularly shocking. I love 'Game of
Thrones,' and I've seen more tits and fannies and cocks on 'Game of
Thrones' than I see in 'God's Own Country.' But I also see people
totally mutilated, which we don't do. (Laughter)
Was I dissuaded against it? There was a little bit of talk, before we'd
actually made the film when it was at script stage, about marketing,
cross-over appeal to which I went, 'Fuck off, I'm making my film my
And that convinced people. And I think that's the right thing to do. I am still surprised that people think it's explicit and
have issue with it. In the U.K., not so much. In Australia, not at all.
They use it as a selling point in Australia.
It's a really interesting debate. Looking at a year with some exceptional films that
highlight same-sex relationships or trans relationships -- these are not
niche films; these are films that are fucking good and have done
business. 'God's Own Country' is possibly the most financially
successful British indie film in the cinema in the UK. It's still at
cinemas nine weeks later... It's outsold 'Dunkirk' in a couple of
EDGE: Josh, did you have any apprehension about the intimate scenes?
Josh O'Connor: I don't think I did. I was more nervous about working with cows... I
honestly don't see how anyone could read that screenplay and have any
doubts about those scenes. They're so important in punctuating where
Johnny is. In a weird way, they're the most enjoyable to film.
EDGE: Alec, I read you were in a play in Romania with gay themes.
Alec Secareanu: Romania is a very traditional country... the film is going to be
screened in Romania... it might get very political because nowadays
there is an NGO (non-government organization) called Coalition for
Family, which is supported by the Christian Church. They're trying to
change the constitution to make a referendum. Now the constitution in
Romania says that marriage is the union between two persons. They're
trying to make it more specifically say it's between a man and a woman.
They're trying to get us to go backwards.
Six years ago when I played a gay character in a play we got a lot of threatening letters
from extreme right organizations, so we were afraid and had to call the
police, and they came and made sure the actors were safe and also the
audience. So it's going to be very interesting when the film is out in
the cinemas in November. I don't know what to expect, to be honest. I'm
optimistic about it.
EDGE: Francis, what was the shoot like?
Francis Lee: We shot chronologically because I felt each scene was like a building
block onto the next scene. We were really well prepared... We'd do a bit
of a quick rehearsal and then we'd shoot it. And generally we'd move
on. It was a very collaborative process. I let the actors feel they
owned their characters... but I am quite controlling, so there was no
improvising. And they had to stick exactly to the dialogue.
Josh O'Connor: My relationship to the film is with Francis and Alec, so it's really
is about having someone there who's supporting us and knew exactly what
he wanted and trusted us to deliver... I knew Johnny better than I know
myself... We had this unbelievable support from Francis. He was there
every step of the way and came on that journey with us.
|yianang||Date: Monday, 2018-02-05, 6:02 AM | Message # 19|
|Thanks for this VERY interesting interview, Jishcand!
|Marcus||Date: Monday, 2018-02-05, 11:12 AM | Message # 20|
|gamatomovies1978, Στο σχόλιο #10 υπάρχουν οι Ελλινικοί υπότιτλοι και στο #11 οι Αγγλικοί για την Blueray Version.|
Πιστεύω πως μπορείς να τους συγχρονίσεις Κ
Jishcand, Thank you for the Interview!!!
|Marcus||Date: Monday, 2018-02-05, 11:26 AM | Message # 21|
|2017 saw a huge insurgence in the amount Of queer films being released internationally, |
from Luca Guadagnino's peach perfect Call My By Your Name to Eliza Hittman's emotive indie Beach Rats.
But was God's Own Country, the rurally set story of love and acceptance between a farmer and his Southeastern European apprentice
that was the surprise hit Of queer cinema.
In a directorial debut from Francis Lee, the film exceeded all expectations by filling out cinemas, resulting in a re-release,
and becoming an awards season fave, collecting Best Actor and Best Screenplay Debut at the British Independent Film Awards, the World Cinema Directing Award at Sundance,
and most recently, a BAFTA Outstanding British Film nomination and an EE Rising Star nod for the films lead, Josh O'Connor.
This is the second time I've met Josh. The first was when God's O.•an Country was in the week before the film was released;
in advance Of the press whirlwind, ahead of the the film (and O'Connor) acquiring a huge fan following and prior to the string Of accolades
and nominations that God's Own Country would come to amass.
When we meet today, on a cold Windy Thursday in Theatre, he's seemingly worlds away from the man I met 6 months ago.
He's no longer shy and reserved, instead greeting me like an old friend with a warm embra? It's almost as though his turn as the films
tortured protagonist Johnny Saxby has both matured and mellowed him.
Truth be told, OConnor is a genuinely good guy, the kind that you want to go down the pub and have a pint with.
But, instead of a pint, we sit down for a fruity water to talk about his rising Star Status.
Firstly, tell us how you got involved With God's Own Country.
I guess the casting director would have the script to my agent.
I was filming in Corfu and I read it and I was like "this is amazing, this is beautiful."
I couldn't meet because I was away, so I did a tape and I sent it in.
I've now found out from doing Q&A's with Francis [Lee) that he saw the tape and was like "oh my god, Ive found someone from Keighley and he's great for it,
the only problem is he looks really troubled and might be a bit problematic" so he was like "I'll meet him and see what he's like
because I don't want to work with someone that's problematic" and then he met me and realised I was from Cheltenham Spa and.. .posh!
How would you describe your working relationship with Francis?
He's genuinely One Of my best mates, like a brotherly figure really.
We'd go through where he was born, what was the name of his first friend, his first sexual experience,
his first sexual experience with a man, and we went through everything in such detail.
Were you quite wrapped up in your character?
Totally! By the time we got to set, I kept myself to myself, I had been working on the farm for like two or three weeks before we started shooting and there
would be times When John the farmer would come down on a quad bike and they'd call cut on a scene and John would come in with a ewe to be lambed.
I'd lamb the ewe and then wash my hands and then call action and do another take — crazy!
It must have been really strange when you wrapped filming, having being so invested in the role.
A lot of audiences will come and see our film and be like "what happens next?" and what I love about this film, the final shot is the door closing behind Gheorgie and Johnny.
I wrote a backstory for Johnny until the first day Of the narrative Of the film,
and then I always saw the point where they close the door as a goodbye, and it is sad and sometimes you have little pangs Of "I miss Gheorgie or I miss Johnny"
but that's cool and the best thing about my job is that I get to live those characters, otherwise they wouldn't exist.
Speaking of Alec who plays Gheorgie, how did you create the on-screen Chemistry that the pair had?
I'd been cast and then Francis had seen a few Romanian actors in Bucharest and he flew three overto do a chemistry read with me.
All three of them were brilliant. What was so amazing was that where I was going with Jonny,
I was finding him to be quite frenetic, quite anxious but wouldn't ever show it because he was all about showing masculinity and an inarticulacy.
I had this inability to be vulnerable, and there was this character or this actor (Alec] who came in and had a calming presence.
Me and Francis didn't discuss it but I just knew that Francis liked him and I liked him
but there was this thing afterwards where it was like "that perfect" because that was exactly What works for Jonny
— the counterbalance and the calm presence and understanding.
so then me and Francis talked about the fact we didn't want me and Alec to meet again until we both met onscreen,
so then Alec stayed in a hotel and I stayed in my little cottage in the middle of nowhere, so we didn't talk or meet until we first meet on-screen.
SO it was kind Of an organic chemistry.
Yeah, it felt very organic! Alec worked in a similarly detailed way with Francis separately, and we never shared our backstory and still to this day
I have no idea what he wrote, but as soon as you've got two characters that have so much depth and you know the narrative,
you know where we're headed, the chemistry kind Of happens.
When you've got twoactors that are engaged and willing to listen and be kind to each other and support each other,
you can have so much fun and be wild and take risks and so I never felt and I don't think Alec ever felt, unsafe.
Yet we had to feel quite vulnerable because there'd be moments where Pd do something a bit mental
and we'd have to just run With it and likewise and that was kind Of the rule, we'd do what thought was right and Francis would guide us that way.
How did you handle filming the more explicit scenes together?
Amazing to think about how safe it felt! That was the one scene where me and Alec had to meet before we shot, so we choreographed it, it was so detailed!
There was a twenty point plan so it was like "Jonny grabs his crotch. grabs Ghoergie's shoulder, pushes him down, they roll".
It's like every single detail was planned. I read an article the Other day in The Guardian which said it was the sexiest scene Of the year.
I think I thought it was fucking sexy! It seems so rough but actually it wasso organised and planned
and I think that does make it feel safe because you feel like youye going through the motions together.
But also, despite calling it choreography, that doesn't show on screen at all, it seems really natural.
Yes! The points were planned but inbetween anything could have happened, so as long
as you've got a ground work of a planned journey then it can sort of go off on it's own little tangent.
Why do you think it is that it's resonated with so many people, both gay and straight?
I think there is something to do with the fact that it's a love story not set in a metropolitan environment.
(Andrew Haigh'sl Weekend is a beautiful film, but it's a metropolitan love story and we see that all the time.
I also think it's so real, it's authentic, it's not glitzy or pretty, again not to bring in other films,
there are certain films this year that are beautiful love stories, quite glamorous and very beautiful looking and sometimes you want that,
but I think sometimes you just want to see fucking real life.
You want to see you represented on-screen. I feel like that's why a lot of people have got behind it.
Speaking Of representation on-screen, there is kind Of an On-going debate straight
actors playing gay roles, I wondered What your thoughts were on that?
I think ift a really difficult one because ultimately — in some ways this is the best way to describe it — if you go into a casting room,
it would be impossible for Francis for instance to say "tell me your sexuality".
Ultimately, we should continue to fight for equality across all roles.
I think from Francis' point Of view, it was a case of "let's cast this role in the best way that we possibly can or who I think is best for that role".
Unfortunately across the board and in every aspect Of casting there are issues,
but I think my stance on it as an actor that my job is to represent a character as best I can, and if I ever feel like I cant, I would say.
Do you think that the UK film industry has enough films which shines the lines on the LGBTQ community?
That's interesting I think4 there's always more stories and I guess projects like God's Own Country can only be good,
because it's a low budget film, there's no stars in it and it's broken records in terms of box office so that can only be a good thing!
I think there should be more. As a cinema fan, I would like to see more.
This year has been incredible; Beach Rats, Call Me By Your Narne, BPM, God's Own Country, all these great films and all being unbelievably successful so tha& really cool.
But yeah, there can always be more!
|Marcus||Date: Monday, 2018-02-05, 11:26 AM | Message # 22|
|You're nominated for the BAFTA for EE Rising Star. HOW does it feel to be nominated?|
I vote every year for the Rising Star and think it's the most amazing thing. The idea Of being up there is just pretty mental!
I know it's a group of incredible actors, and some of whom I know. It's a massive honour.
What would it mean to you to Win?
I'd just be overwhelmed. You'd get a rubbish speech Out Of me. It would
mean a lot, but it's weird, doesn't seem like a real thing.
Especially as a young actor, you never really every imagne that you'll be there, so it'sa weird thing to grasp!
Aside from acting, you were recently named as the new face of Menswear for Loewe. How did that come about?
That came about because Jonathan Anderson saw the film and was like "l want that Eny" so I think it was that simple!
I am a massive fan of Jonathan and JW Anderson but Loewe specifically!
When I first met him we were in Madrid and he took me the Loewe store in Madrid!
It's not just about the fashion, it's about the artistic merit Of it.
Charlotte Rampling was the last ambassador and I'm kind Of Obsessed With her, so
it was kind Of a combination Of those things but Jonathan is just an
You've been so busy recently, what's next?
I'm doing something with the BBC. I'm doing an adaption Of Les Miserables, but it's not a musical.
It's an adaption Of the novel With Dominic West, Olivia Colman, so it's an amazing cast!
Vote for Josh as your BAFTA EE Rising Star at: ee.co.uk/why-ee/ee-baftas/rising-star-
Josh O'Connor interview in Gay Times Magazine - February 2017
|yianang||Date: Wednesday, 2018-02-07, 2:23 AM | Message # 23|
|Thanks, Marcus, it's a very good interview!
|Jishcand||Date: Wednesday, 2018-02-07, 11:30 AM | Message # 24|
|I've seen the film for the Nth time now!!! It's infectious!|
By the way, if you love the themesong which was played at the end of the film by Patrick Wolf called THE DAYS well you won't find it any OST.
They didn't release the official OST I think. But I have his 2011 Lupercalia album which contains this haunting love song of John and Gheorghe.
I also have the Lullaby instrumental version which is so relaxing.
So I made a special EP for these songs exclusive only for the members here.
Available to users only
Message edited by Jishcand - Wednesday, 2018-02-07, 11:31 AM
|Marcus||Date: Wednesday, 2018-02-07, 3:40 PM | Message # 25|
|Jishcand, once again
|yianang||Date: Saturday, 2018-02-10, 10:23 AM | Message # 26|
|So kind of you, Jishcand!
|Jishcand||Date: Tuesday, 2018-02-13, 12:20 PM | Message # 27|
|No problem |
OMG. It's Valentine's Day tomorrow!
HAPPY HEARTS DAY!!!
I don't have a date tomorrow so I'm gonna watch this film again ( for the 10th now I think ).
This is my new Titanic now.
Message edited by Jishcand - Tuesday, 2018-02-13, 12:21 PM
|yianang||Date: Friday, 2018-02-16, 6:56 AM | Message # 28|
|Happy Valentine's Day, Jishcand! Also, sometimes you have a better time being alone. Chin up, my friend.
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